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	<title>Comments on: Place-Based vs Person-Based Community Development Policies</title>
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		<title>By: jhs</title>
		<link>http://planning-research.com/place-based-vs-person-based-community-development-policies/comment-page-1/#comment-85</link>
		<dc:creator>jhs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2007 01:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Randy, I just saw this thread on your blog right now, almost a year after you posted it! It&#039;s amazing what installing Google Desktop will reveal to you...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In any case, I&#039;ve been doing a bit of writing about people-place issues from empiricla and philosophical POV&#039;s. Two empirical pieces I have in JPER and in Urban Affairs Review examine place-based investments in LA, and compare them to the EITC. Admittedly, it&#039;s a bit of an unfair comparison, but it is revealing to know that each year the EITC channels roughly $150 million into LA&#039;s Enterprise Zones (Places). And this is directly to &quot;people.&quot; Now, what happens to all of that investment in people? Surely it must lead to some kind of development. In a 2007 Urban Affairs Review piece I tested the economic development effects of the EITC. While not a HUGE job creation policy tool, there were certainly detectable effects on the retail job base in Enterprise Zones as well as other poor areas. All that to say what I have tried to articulate in a Policy Studies Journal piece (I think 2004). They should be seen as complementary - as one of your other respondents has noted. This is not only because we&#039;re never going to get rid of one or the other, but because (and this is what many of the effiency-oriented analysts overlook) is that they exist within political decision-making structures. Think about it this way - what does a mayor or city-council member get from the EITC? Not a whole lot - at least politically. On the other hand, a targeted neighborhood tax benefit can go a  long way towards getting re-elected. My intention in examining the economic development effects of the EITC is to show that mayors might actually state that support for state-level EITC&#039;s are likely to lead to local job development (in addition to gains against poverty). The reality is that parties and administrations change - as do the antipoverty policies they promote. The important thing is to keep a range of viable antipoverty policy alternatives that can appeal to this range of policy makers. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;d be interested to hear any thoughts you or others have on this, as I think it&#039;s kind of an under-explored area....&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Happy holidays out there in I-land. &lt;br/&gt;Jim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Randy, I just saw this thread on your blog right now, almost a year after you posted it! It&#8217;s amazing what installing Google Desktop will reveal to you&#8230;</p>
<p>In any case, I&#8217;ve been doing a bit of writing about people-place issues from empiricla and philosophical POV&#8217;s. Two empirical pieces I have in JPER and in Urban Affairs Review examine place-based investments in LA, and compare them to the EITC. Admittedly, it&#8217;s a bit of an unfair comparison, but it is revealing to know that each year the EITC channels roughly $150 million into LA&#8217;s Enterprise Zones (Places). And this is directly to &#8220;people.&#8221; Now, what happens to all of that investment in people? Surely it must lead to some kind of development. In a 2007 Urban Affairs Review piece I tested the economic development effects of the EITC. While not a HUGE job creation policy tool, there were certainly detectable effects on the retail job base in Enterprise Zones as well as other poor areas. All that to say what I have tried to articulate in a Policy Studies Journal piece (I think 2004). They should be seen as complementary &#8211; as one of your other respondents has noted. This is not only because we&#8217;re never going to get rid of one or the other, but because (and this is what many of the effiency-oriented analysts overlook) is that they exist within political decision-making structures. Think about it this way &#8211; what does a mayor or city-council member get from the EITC? Not a whole lot &#8211; at least politically. On the other hand, a targeted neighborhood tax benefit can go a  long way towards getting re-elected. My intention in examining the economic development effects of the EITC is to show that mayors might actually state that support for state-level EITC&#8217;s are likely to lead to local job development (in addition to gains against poverty). The reality is that parties and administrations change &#8211; as do the antipoverty policies they promote. The important thing is to keep a range of viable antipoverty policy alternatives that can appeal to this range of policy makers. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d be interested to hear any thoughts you or others have on this, as I think it&#8217;s kind of an under-explored area&#8230;.</p>
<p>Happy holidays out there in I-land. <br />Jim</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 13:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that overall people-based strategies may be more effective for reducing poverty with one exception: extreme concentrations of poverty.  Areas with extreme concentrations of poverty seem to suffer from lack of investment, low levels of public services, and cyclic patterns of chronic problems such as crime and drug use.  Place-based strategies to mix incomes may be effective in breaking these cycles, as appears to be the case with many HOPE VI redevelopments of public housing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that overall people-based strategies may be more effective for reducing poverty with one exception: extreme concentrations of poverty.  Areas with extreme concentrations of poverty seem to suffer from lack of investment, low levels of public services, and cyclic patterns of chronic problems such as crime and drug use.  Place-based strategies to mix incomes may be effective in breaking these cycles, as appears to be the case with many HOPE VI redevelopments of public housing.</p>
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		<title>By: James Gleeson</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Gleeson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 07:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps not exactly what you&#039;re looking for, but you may be interested in some recent work from the UK:&lt;br/&gt;-&#039;&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.jrf.org.uk/bookshop/details.asp?pubID=744&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Economic segregation in England: Causes, consequences and policy&lt;/a&gt;&#039;, by Meen et al&lt;br/&gt;-&#039;&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.primeminister.gov.uk/files/pdf/povertyofplace.pdf&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Poverty of Place&lt;/a&gt;&#039;, by Suzanne Fitzpatrick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps not exactly what you&#8217;re looking for, but you may be interested in some recent work from the UK:<br />-&#8217;<a HREF="http://www.jrf.org.uk/bookshop/details.asp?pubID=744" REL="nofollow">Economic segregation in England: Causes, consequences and policy</a>&#8216;, by Meen et al<br />-&#8217;<a HREF="http://www.primeminister.gov.uk/files/pdf/povertyofplace.pdf" REL="nofollow">Poverty of Place</a>&#8216;, by Suzanne Fitzpatrick.</p>
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		<title>By: ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2007 22:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that such a review is long overdue. I would advise being clear about goals. In my practice, I have tended to emphasize people-based strategies if the goal is lifting households out of poverty, and place-based strategies if the goal is bolstering the health and competitiveness of the local economy. Clearly both goals are complementary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that such a review is long overdue. I would advise being clear about goals. In my practice, I have tended to emphasize people-based strategies if the goal is lifting households out of poverty, and place-based strategies if the goal is bolstering the health and competitiveness of the local economy. Clearly both goals are complementary.</p>
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