Comments on: Dowell Myers on Proposition 13, Demographics and Housing: The New Reality After the Crash http://planning-research.com/proposition-13-demographics-and-housing-the-new-reality-after-the-crash/ essays on urban studies Sat, 06 Feb 2010 21:20:44 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: quick hits « west north http://planning-research.com/proposition-13-demographics-and-housing-the-new-reality-after-the-crash/comment-page-1/#comment-12696 quick hits « west north Mon, 05 Oct 2009 02:39:50 +0000 http://planning-research.com/?p=416#comment-12696 [...] Proposition 13 really is a tax on newcomers and the young, according to research by Dowell Myers. Senior homeowners get an average of $1,000 a year, paid for by homeowners under [...] [...] Proposition 13 really is a tax on newcomers and the young, according to research by Dowell Myers. Senior homeowners get an average of $1,000 a year, paid for by homeowners under [...]

]]> By: Melanie Curry http://planning-research.com/proposition-13-demographics-and-housing-the-new-reality-after-the-crash/comment-page-1/#comment-12091 Melanie Curry Wed, 23 Sep 2009 23:15:13 +0000 http://planning-research.com/?p=416#comment-12091 The missing information on commercial properties is a large part of the story of Prop 13. How many businesses remain in possession of their pre-Prop 13 properties, compared to homeowners? What is the difference in scale in terms of business tax savings (or should we call it state tax losses) vs. homeowner tax savings? The fact that commercial properties were included at all in Prop 13 may have as much to do with the passage of the "tax revolt" than Jarvis' emotional appeal to homeowners. At the very least it helped fund the campaign. The missing information on commercial properties is a large part of the story of Prop 13. How many businesses remain in possession of their pre-Prop 13 properties, compared to homeowners? What is the difference in scale in terms of business tax savings (or should we call it state tax losses) vs. homeowner tax savings? The fact that commercial properties were included at all in Prop 13 may have as much to do with the passage of the “tax revolt” than Jarvis’ emotional appeal to homeowners. At the very least it helped fund the campaign.

]]> By: Ormond Otvos http://planning-research.com/proposition-13-demographics-and-housing-the-new-reality-after-the-crash/comment-page-1/#comment-11964 Ormond Otvos Mon, 21 Sep 2009 04:14:13 +0000 http://planning-research.com/?p=416#comment-11964 Didn't notice any analysis of young vs old earning capacity, effects on pensions, stability of neighborhoods on family expansion with near relatives taking over family homes, etc. Seems a narrow analysis for that reason, and as a narrow analysis, suspect. Booms seem to be expected as a moral wash. They aren't. You're right, using home values, and businesses as people has the usual personhood flaws. Business trumps good government. What's new? Didn’t notice any analysis of young vs old earning capacity, effects on pensions, stability of neighborhoods on family expansion with near relatives taking over family homes, etc.

Seems a narrow analysis for that reason, and as a narrow analysis, suspect. Booms seem to be expected as a moral wash. They aren’t.

You’re right, using home values, and businesses as people has the usual personhood flaws. Business trumps good government. What’s new?

]]> By: Dowell Myers on Proposition 13 « Sustainable Cities and Transport http://planning-research.com/proposition-13-demographics-and-housing-the-new-reality-after-the-crash/comment-page-1/#comment-11536 Dowell Myers on Proposition 13 « Sustainable Cities and Transport Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:07:55 +0000 http://planning-research.com/?p=416#comment-11536 [...] Proposition 13. Randy Crane’s Urban Planning Research Blog* presents a summary of the report here. The full report can be found at his Population Dynamics Research Group [...] [...] Proposition 13. Randy Crane’s Urban Planning Research Blog* presents a summary of the report here. The full report can be found at his Population Dynamics Research Group [...]

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